SMC violating Microsoft Licences agreements?

SMC (the ones on TV, you know the Happy Days guy) are promoting their
"exclusive" website marketing program that basically does not give
potential sub-wholesalers control over the web site?

Sub-wholesalers (members of SMC) do not have the option of NOT
recruiting additional SMC members (competition) by removing that option
on the expensive web sites they have to pay for?

SMC members do not have the option of removing certain items from the
inventory they are selling?

Doesn't the IRS classify that as "loss of control" and therefore all
members of SMC using websites in that manner would be classified as
"employees" since they are not true "wholesalers" in control of their
own operations?

Isn't that against the policy of Microsoft to allow companies to use
their products for illegal activities?With all due respect to your argument: What is the ASP.NET question?

Clint Hill
H3O Software
http://www.h3osoftware.com

ilovemyview@.yahoo.com wrote:
> SMC (the ones on TV, you know the Happy Days guy) are promoting their
> "exclusive" website marketing program that basically does not give
> potential sub-wholesalers control over the web site?
> Sub-wholesalers (members of SMC) do not have the option of NOT
> recruiting additional SMC members (competition) by removing that option
> on the expensive web sites they have to pay for?
> SMC members do not have the option of removing certain items from the
> inventory they are selling?
> Doesn't the IRS classify that as "loss of control" and therefore all
> members of SMC using websites in that manner would be classified as
> "employees" since they are not true "wholesalers" in control of their
> own operations?
> Isn't that against the policy of Microsoft to allow companies to use
> their products for illegal activities?
You have posted in a group that is not related to your question.
Please post in a relevant group.

snt
http://www.flexoweb.com
http://www.onlinemall.com
> My apologies for offending anyone. I thought perhaps that someone who
> works for Microsoft might have an interest in someone possibly abusing
> their products?

ASP.Net developers who work for Microsoft (and are about the only Microsoft
employees who hang out here) don't have any interest in "someone possibly
abusing their products." And neither do the rest of us. Why?

1. There are so many people "abusing" Microsoft products worldwide that
Microsoft has people whose only job it is to deal with it. The rest of the
company is paid to do other things, and get paid for what they do, not for
doing someone else's job.

2. The Internet is full of abuse. And there are newsgroups for people who
want to talk about it. This isn't one of them. There are also organizations
that deal with abuse, and domain personnel and mailboxes for reporting
abuse. Again, this is not germaine to this newsgroup.

3. The purpose of topic-specific newsgroups is to make it easier to find
information about the topic one is interested in. If everyone with a bee in
their bonnet about something simply posted to any newsgroup, these
newsgroups would be cluttered with all kinds of irrelevant information. Your
information is irrelevant to this newsgroup.

This is a newsgroup for programmers and developers using ASP.Net and related
Microsoft .Net technologies. It exists for the purpose of helping developers
with problems related to ASP.Net in particular. Programmers are people who
employ logic on a daily basis. Therefore, if you are a programmer, you must
be a very poor one.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.

<ilovemyview@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125895651.246222.42070@.z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
> snt wrote:
>> You have posted in a group that is not related to your question.
>> Please post in a relevant group.
>>
>> snt
>> http://www.flexoweb.com
>> http://www.onlinemall.com
> My apologies for offending anyone. I thought perhaps that someone who
> works for Microsoft might have an interest in someone possibly abusing
> their products?
> Would you want to blindly sign up for a web site that will make you
> money, when in reality you could be sued later if other "members" are
> actually judged to be your employees by the IRS?
> Would you post in groups where you think developers frequent to get
> their input? Would you keep asking questions if you think the people
> involved practice denial of the issue and make jokes about it?
> Would you actually think you could run a business with thousands of
> products if you had to manually download one picture at a time? Would
> you then think that if you pay for a "service" that allows you to sell
> products online is really just a virtual mirror of your parent
> "wholesaler" web site knowing full well that you are entering into an
> agreement with virtually no control over the inventory, or the ability
> to recruit new "members"?
> Would you then ask yourself if you are really in business for yourself,
> or are you an employee of another company according to IRS laws?
> Would you then want to alert other software developers? Would you come
> to this conclusion after the "CEO" declares that this "service" is
> available only through one company? Why not let multiple companies
> offer the same "service" with different options?
> Is this really a "service" or a virtual employment relationship? Do
> truckers ask for business plans of a company before they make a
> shipment?
> Would you come to this conclusion because in order to appear to run
> your own business with SMC as the supplier, your customers think these
> are your products, your policies, when they are not?
> Would you come to these conclusions because the only way to sell
> products is online according to your business strategy? So should
> clients of Microsoft Products and developers encourage the proper use
> of their products?
> Do you think if you make people aware of your concerns, it is more
> trouble to fix the problem or is it easier to deny it?
> What groups would you post to?
> Would you make a complaint to the Federal Trade Commission?
> Would you contact the IRS?
> Would you bring this up for discussion in your college class?

SMC violating Microsoft Licences agreements?

SMC (the ones on TV, you know the Happy Days guy) are promoting their
"exclusive" website marketing program that basically does not give
potential sub-wholesalers control over the web site?
Sub-wholesalers (members of SMC) do not have the option of NOT
recruiting additional SMC members (competition) by removing that option
on the expensive web sites they have to pay for?
SMC members do not have the option of removing certain items from the
inventory they are selling?
Doesn't the IRS classify that as "loss of control" and therefore all
members of SMC using websites in that manner would be classified as
"employees" since they are not true "wholesalers" in control of their
own operations?
Isn't that against the policy of Microsoft to allow companies to use
their products for illegal activities?With all due respect to your argument: What is the ASP.NET question?
Clint Hill
H3O Software
http://www.h3osoftware.com
ilovemyview@.yahoo.com wrote:
> SMC (the ones on TV, you know the Happy Days guy) are promoting their
> "exclusive" website marketing program that basically does not give
> potential sub-wholesalers control over the web site?
> Sub-wholesalers (members of SMC) do not have the option of NOT
> recruiting additional SMC members (competition) by removing that option
> on the expensive web sites they have to pay for?
> SMC members do not have the option of removing certain items from the
> inventory they are selling?
> Doesn't the IRS classify that as "loss of control" and therefore all
> members of SMC using websites in that manner would be classified as
> "employees" since they are not true "wholesalers" in control of their
> own operations?
> Isn't that against the policy of Microsoft to allow companies to use
> their products for illegal activities?
>
You have posted in a group that is not related to your question.
Please post in a relevant group.
snt
http://www.flexoweb.com
http://www.onlinemall.com
snt wrote:
> You have posted in a group that is not related to your question.
> Please post in a relevant group.
> snt
> http://www.flexoweb.com
> http://www.onlinemall.com
My apologies for offending anyone. I thought perhaps that someone who
works for Microsoft might have an interest in someone possibly abusing
their products?
Would you want to blindly sign up for a web site that will make you
money, when in reality you could be sued later if other "members" are
actually judged to be your employees by the IRS?
Would you post in groups where you think developers frequent to get
their input? Would you keep asking questions if you think the people
involved practice denial of the issue and make jokes about it?
Would you actually think you could run a business with thousands of
products if you had to manually download one picture at a time? Would
you then think that if you pay for a "service" that allows you to sell
products online is really just a virtual mirror of your parent
"wholesaler" web site knowing full well that you are entering into an
agreement with virtually no control over the inventory, or the ability
to recruit new "members"?
Would you then ask yourself if you are really in business for yourself,
or are you an employee of another company according to IRS laws?
Would you then want to alert other software developers? Would you come
to this conclusion after the "CEO" declares that this "service" is
available only through one company? Why not let multiple companies
offer the same "service" with different options?
Is this really a "service" or a virtual employment relationship? Do
truckers ask for business plans of a company before they make a
shipment?
Would you come to this conclusion because in order to appear to run
your own business with SMC as the supplier, your customers think these
are your products, your policies, when they are not?
Would you come to these conclusions because the only way to sell
products is online according to your business strategy? So should
clients of Microsoft Products and developers encourage the proper use
of their products?
Do you think if you make people aware of your concerns, it is more
trouble to fix the problem or is it easier to deny it?
What groups would you post to?
Would you make a complaint to the Federal Trade Commission?
Would you contact the IRS?
Would you bring this up for discussion in your college class?

SMLDatasource error

I am finding the switch to Visual Studio 2005 from 2003 a bit of a problem
at times. My latest problem is that when I add an XMLDatasource to an aspx
page and set its datafile to an xml file (with or without accompanying XSD
file), then add a gridview control to the page and set its datasource to the
XMLDatasource, I receive the following error:

The data source for GridView with id 'GridView1' did not have any properties
or attributes from which to generate columns. Ensure that your data source
has content.

My XML file has content. Makes we want to return to reading XML files into
a dataset, then using the dataset or an associated dataview as a datasource.

What could be the problem?William LaMartin wrote:
> I am finding the switch to Visual Studio 2005 from 2003 a bit of a problem
> at times. My latest problem is that when I add an XMLDatasource to an aspx
> page and set its datafile to an xml file (with or without accompanying XSD
> file), then add a gridview control to the page and set its datasource to the
> XMLDatasource, I receive the following error:
> The data source for GridView with id 'GridView1' did not have any properties
> or attributes from which to generate columns. Ensure that your data source
> has content.
> My XML file has content. Makes we want to return to reading XML files into
> a dataset, then using the dataset or an associated dataview as a datasource.
> What could be the problem?

Set AutoGenerateColumns = "false". Below is the code from my app

<Columns>
<asp:CommandField ShowSelectButton="True" />
<asp:TemplateField HeaderText="ID">
<ItemTemplate>
<%#XPath("ID")%>
</ItemTemplate>
</asp:TemplateField>
<asp:TemplateField HeaderText="Title">
<ItemTemplate>
<%#XPath("TITLE")%>
</ItemTemplate>
</asp:TemplateField>
<asp:TemplateField HeaderText="Content">
<ItemTemplate>
<%#XPath("CONTENT")%>
</ItemTemplate>
</asp:TemplateField>
<asp:TemplateField>
<ItemTemplate>
<asp:HyperLink Text="Edit"
runat="server"></asp:HyperLink>
</ItemTemplate>
</asp:TemplateField>
</Columns

SMLDatasource error

I am finding the switch to Visual Studio 2005 from 2003 a bit of a problem
at times. My latest problem is that when I add an XMLDatasource to an aspx
page and set its datafile to an xml file (with or without accompanying XSD
file), then add a gridview control to the page and set its datasource to the
XMLDatasource, I receive the following error:
The data source for GridView with id 'GridView1' did not have any properties
or attributes from which to generate columns. Ensure that your data source
has content.
My XML file has content. Makes we want to return to reading XML files into
a dataset, then using the dataset or an associated dataview as a datasource.
What could be the problem?William LaMartin wrote:
> I am finding the switch to Visual Studio 2005 from 2003 a bit of a problem
> at times. My latest problem is that when I add an XMLDatasource to an asp
x
> page and set its datafile to an xml file (with or without accompanying XSD
> file), then add a gridview control to the page and set its datasource to t
he
> XMLDatasource, I receive the following error:
> The data source for GridView with id 'GridView1' did not have any properti
es
> or attributes from which to generate columns. Ensure that your data sourc
e
> has content.
> My XML file has content. Makes we want to return to reading XML files int
o
> a dataset, then using the dataset or an associated dataview as a datasourc
e.
> What could be the problem?
Set AutoGenerateColumns = "false". Below is the code from my app
<Columns>
<asp:CommandField ShowSelectButton="True" />
<asp:TemplateField HeaderText="ID">
<ItemTemplate>
<%#XPath("ID")%>
</ItemTemplate>
</asp:TemplateField>
<asp:TemplateField HeaderText="Title">
<ItemTemplate>
<%#XPath("TITLE")%>
</ItemTemplate>
</asp:TemplateField>
<asp:TemplateField HeaderText="Content">
<ItemTemplate>
<%#XPath("CONTENT")%>
</ItemTemplate>
</asp:TemplateField>
<asp:TemplateField>
<ItemTemplate>
<asp:HyperLink Text="Edit"
runat="server"></asp:HyperLink>
</ItemTemplate>
</asp:TemplateField>
</Columns>

Smooth surfing between asp pages

Hello,

In php i used something witch ajax so the pages are very smooth.
I also sea that onhttp://www.dotnetnuke.com/ if you press downloads you sea that the page is loaded on the background, and if the page is fully loaded, he shows it to you. Like that you have a website wich is very smooth.

I like to use such a thing in asp.net also.
But how can i make that? Is there a kind of tutorial for it?

Greets,

Me

In asp.net Ajax, there is something called partial page updates, which allow you to do just that.

Read the partial updates or see the video on partial updates herehttp://asp.net/ajax/

You use an

<asp:UpdatePanel ... to initiate that.

smoothing the end users page performance

I have a process intensive asp.net page that takes up to two minutes to finish processing. It's a backoffice page that connects to different web services / API's, does some stuff and returns either success or error + error message, that gets displayed in order on a datagrid.

I know I can't do the process faster, because the web services / API's are 3rd party. But I wan't to "smooth" the end user's performance.

Is there anyway to get the datagrid "updated", so the end user see's the results of each connection to the API's? Instead of waiting until the whole page process, and then get the results. Is some kind of flush? or dump? I tryed response.flush() but it doesn't do anithing I can see.

Thanks
HoraShadowDo not use any of ASP.NET's built in controls, instead, manually write a table using Response.Write and Response.Flush.

Another thing you have to do is specify the column widths on the table in pixels for ALL columns, otherwise the end user's browser will wait for the whole table before it shows it. If you specify all the widths manually up front, most browsers will write the table as it receives it.
Thanks for your answer Lord_Rat!.

I tryed your suggestion with a test page, but I couldn't get it to work. After 6 seconds it display the entire page. Instead of flushing segments.

I used the debugger of vs2003 and IE6.1.

This is de code I used to try this out is:


Private Sub Page_Load(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles MyBase.Load
Dim counter

Response.Write("<table border=1>")
Response.Flush()
For counter = 0 To 5
wait(counter)
Next
Response.Write("</table>")
Response.Flush()
End Sub

Private Sub wait(ByVal cycle As Integer)
sytem.threading.thread.sleep(2000)

Response.Write("<tr><td width=500>" & cycle.ToString & " | " & now & "</td></tr>")
Response.Flush()
End Sub



What I'm missing for this test to work?

Thanks
HoraShadow
Response.Write("<table border=1>")

Change to :
Response.Write("<table border=""1"" width=""500"">")
Response.Write("<colgroup")
Response.Write("<col width=""500"" />")
Response.Write("</colgroup>")

You don't have to specify a width on the TD elements themselves.
Thanks again for replying!

I still can't get it to work. I must be doing something wrong, but I don't realize where, or what. :blush:

The test code right now looks like this:

Private Sub Page_Load(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles MyBase.Load
Dim counter

Response.Write("<table border=""1"" width=""500"">")
Response.Write("<colgroup>")
Response.Write("<col width=""500"" />")
Response.Write("</colgroup>")
Response.Flush()

For counter = 1 To 5
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(2000)
Response.Write("<tr><td>" & counter & "</td></tr>")
Response.Flush()
Next

Response.Write("</table>")
End Sub

While the page process, If I right click and select view source, I can see the tr and td forming up. But it still doesn't display as it gets received. The code IS received, row by row, but not displayed. It gets displayed as soon as the page finishes rendering and gets dumped to the browser.

The html code looks weird too. It looks like this:

<table border="1" width="500"><colgroup><col width="500" /></colgroup><tr><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>3</td></tr><tr><td>4</td></tr><tr><td>5</td></tr></table>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<title>WebForm1</title>
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 7.1">
<meta name="CODE_LANGUAGE" content="Visual Basic .NET 7.1">
<meta name="vs_defaultClientScript" content="JavaScript">
<meta name="vs_targetSchema" content="http://schemas.microsoft.com/intellisense/ie5">
</HEAD>
<body>
<form name="Form1" method="post" action="WebForm1.aspx" id="Form1">
</form>
</body>
</HTML>

The table gets dumped before anithing else. Maybe that's what's giving me issues?

Thanks
HoraShadow
Resolved! Thanks!.

The error I was having, was that the browser doesn't display the table flushed untill it receives the /table. The browser displays complete tables, not just pratial tables.

Thanks a bunch Lord_Rat!

smpt mail line too long -- How do I insert a line break

We are getting the error PMDF-SMTP-Warning: Lines longer than SMTP allows found and truncated. How do we resolve this?

thanks.

I was able to get it to work by putting environment.newline in the paragraph that was being built. It was a for loop that was building it and was html, so after every </tr> I put in an environment.newline.