So many questions with VB.NET Web applications (active server pages)... any good books?

Hi everyone.
I've been working with VB6 for a while now, I'm feeling pretty damn
confortable with it, but find myself wondering about VB.NET and web
applications. So I thought I'd get my feet wet.
Well - let me tell ya - there's a whole lotta stuff that I need to teach
myself. I have a whole slew of questions - to many and propbably just too
basic to go into here - so I am hoping that someone out there can suggest a
book that I can pick up from Amazon.
All of my questions are to do with creating web pages within VB.NET. I don't
want to go into ASP scripting or java or anything else - I just want to
stick with VB.NET syntax and language.
Whatever book I get should be able to adress these things (all by example
and sample code) - examples and code snippets are important only becuase I
am very green here to VB.NET and web development on a whole:

1) How display popup windows (for like login functions)
2) Go into detail on things like session veriables so I can maintain
seperate content based on if a user is logged in or not.
3) Some database information (although I am pretty comfortable in this area
so I may not need much help if any).
4) Login/security design recomendations.
5) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
shopping cart transactions.
6) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for user
group forums.
7) How to work with frames - or an alternative similiar screen design if
this can't be done within VB.NET (using headers, a side contents section,
etc.)
8) How to have a running counter for things like how many people are logged
into the site.

Any book suggestions that can address these things would be great.

Thanks.

DaveHave a look at ASP.NET Unleashed by Stephen Walther. But it doesnt cover
number 1. For that look on MSDN for
RegisterClientScriptBlock

"David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
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> Hi everyone.
> I've been working with VB6 for a while now, I'm feeling pretty damn
> confortable with it, but find myself wondering about VB.NET and web
> applications. So I thought I'd get my feet wet.
> Well - let me tell ya - there's a whole lotta stuff that I need to teach
> myself. I have a whole slew of questions - to many and propbably just too
> basic to go into here - so I am hoping that someone out there can suggest
a
> book that I can pick up from Amazon.
> All of my questions are to do with creating web pages within VB.NET. I
don't
> want to go into ASP scripting or java or anything else - I just want to
> stick with VB.NET syntax and language.
> Whatever book I get should be able to adress these things (all by example
> and sample code) - examples and code snippets are important only becuase I
> am very green here to VB.NET and web development on a whole:
> 1) How display popup windows (for like login functions)
> 2) Go into detail on things like session veriables so I can maintain
> seperate content based on if a user is logged in or not.
> 3) Some database information (although I am pretty comfortable in this
area
> so I may not need much help if any).
> 4) Login/security design recomendations.
> 5) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
> shopping cart transactions.
> 6) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for user
> group forums.
> 7) How to work with frames - or an alternative similiar screen design if
> this can't be done within VB.NET (using headers, a side contents section,
> etc.)
> 8) How to have a running counter for things like how many people are
logged
> into the site.
> Any book suggestions that can address these things would be great.
> Thanks.
> Dave
Thanks.
Ya know - I'm starting to get the impression that it's not really possible
to do a full website based on VB.NET alone without having to dive into
scripts and that sort of thing. :-(

"Showjumper" <shojumper@.grkjashdjkf.com> wrote in message
news:OXvNP7q3DHA.2428@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Have a look at ASP.NET Unleashed by Stephen Walther. But it doesnt cover
> number 1. For that look on MSDN for
> RegisterClientScriptBlock
> "David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
> news:%23T4kWnq3DHA.1652@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hi everyone.
> > I've been working with VB6 for a while now, I'm feeling pretty damn
> > confortable with it, but find myself wondering about VB.NET and web
> > applications. So I thought I'd get my feet wet.
> > Well - let me tell ya - there's a whole lotta stuff that I need to teach
> > myself. I have a whole slew of questions - to many and propbably just
too
> > basic to go into here - so I am hoping that someone out there can
suggest
> a
> > book that I can pick up from Amazon.
> > All of my questions are to do with creating web pages within VB.NET. I
> don't
> > want to go into ASP scripting or java or anything else - I just want to
> > stick with VB.NET syntax and language.
> > Whatever book I get should be able to adress these things (all by
example
> > and sample code) - examples and code snippets are important only becuase
I
> > am very green here to VB.NET and web development on a whole:
> > 1) How display popup windows (for like login functions)
> > 2) Go into detail on things like session veriables so I can maintain
> > seperate content based on if a user is logged in or not.
> > 3) Some database information (although I am pretty comfortable in this
> area
> > so I may not need much help if any).
> > 4) Login/security design recomendations.
> > 5) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
> > shopping cart transactions.
> > 6) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for use
r
> > group forums.
> > 7) How to work with frames - or an alternative similiar screen design if
> > this can't be done within VB.NET (using headers, a side contents
section,
> > etc.)
> > 8) How to have a running counter for things like how many people are
> logged
> > into the site.
> > Any book suggestions that can address these things would be great.
> > Thanks.
> > Dave
Each has their place. VBNET can used for database interaction and other
server side stuff. While javascript is for the client side. But you can send
javascript to client via vbnet. But you cant use vbnet on the client unless
its a windows app. Also it would help answer your questions if i knew what
you meant by full website.But remeber that each a specific purpose.
"David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks.
> Ya know - I'm starting to get the impression that it's not really possible
> to do a full website based on VB.NET alone without having to dive into
> scripts and that sort of thing. :-(
>
> "Showjumper" <shojumper@.grkjashdjkf.com> wrote in message
> news:OXvNP7q3DHA.2428@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Have a look at ASP.NET Unleashed by Stephen Walther. But it doesnt cover
> > number 1. For that look on MSDN for
> > RegisterClientScriptBlock
> > "David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23T4kWnq3DHA.1652@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi everyone.
> > > I've been working with VB6 for a while now, I'm feeling pretty damn
> > > confortable with it, but find myself wondering about VB.NET and web
> > > applications. So I thought I'd get my feet wet.
> > > Well - let me tell ya - there's a whole lotta stuff that I need to
teach
> > > myself. I have a whole slew of questions - to many and propbably just
> too
> > > basic to go into here - so I am hoping that someone out there can
> suggest
> > a
> > > book that I can pick up from Amazon.
> > > All of my questions are to do with creating web pages within VB.NET. I
> > don't
> > > want to go into ASP scripting or java or anything else - I just want
to
> > > stick with VB.NET syntax and language.
> > > Whatever book I get should be able to adress these things (all by
> example
> > > and sample code) - examples and code snippets are important only
becuase
> I
> > > am very green here to VB.NET and web development on a whole:
> > > > 1) How display popup windows (for like login functions)
> > > 2) Go into detail on things like session veriables so I can maintain
> > > seperate content based on if a user is logged in or not.
> > > 3) Some database information (although I am pretty comfortable in this
> > area
> > > so I may not need much help if any).
> > > 4) Login/security design recomendations.
> > > 5) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
> > > shopping cart transactions.
> > > 6) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
use
> r
> > > group forums.
> > > 7) How to work with frames - or an alternative similiar screen design
if
> > > this can't be done within VB.NET (using headers, a side contents
> section,
> > > etc.)
> > > 8) How to have a running counter for things like how many people are
> > logged
> > > into the site.
> > > > Any book suggestions that can address these things would be great.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > Dave
> > >
Hi there.
I see there's more to this than what I first thought. Seems there's no way
of avoiding javascripts.
By a full website, I meant writing something that has users login, gives
them the ability to browse forums, send messages, and make purchases (credit
towards usage or for purchasing products). The learning curve is steeper
than what I thought - I wasn't counting on having to learn VB.NET (I'm a VB6
user now), plus javascript... guess I have to hit the books now huh? Damn.
;-)

"Showjumper" <shojumper@.grkjashdjkf.com> wrote in message
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> Each has their place. VBNET can used for database interaction and other
> server side stuff. While javascript is for the client side. But you can
send
> javascript to client via vbnet. But you cant use vbnet on the client
unless
> its a windows app. Also it would help answer your questions if i knew what
> you meant by full website.But remeber that each a specific purpose.
> "David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
> news:OsMDTDr3DHA.2000@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks.
> > Ya know - I'm starting to get the impression that it's not really
possible
> > to do a full website based on VB.NET alone without having to dive into
> > scripts and that sort of thing. :-(
> > "Showjumper" <shojumper@.grkjashdjkf.com> wrote in message
> > news:OXvNP7q3DHA.2428@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Have a look at ASP.NET Unleashed by Stephen Walther. But it doesnt
cover
> > > number 1. For that look on MSDN for
> > > RegisterClientScriptBlock
> > > > "David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23T4kWnq3DHA.1652@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi everyone.
> > > > I've been working with VB6 for a while now, I'm feeling pretty damn
> > > > confortable with it, but find myself wondering about VB.NET and web
> > > > applications. So I thought I'd get my feet wet.
> > > > Well - let me tell ya - there's a whole lotta stuff that I need to
> teach
> > > > myself. I have a whole slew of questions - to many and propbably
just
> > too
> > > > basic to go into here - so I am hoping that someone out there can
> > suggest
> > > a
> > > > book that I can pick up from Amazon.
> > > > All of my questions are to do with creating web pages within VB.NET.
I
> > > don't
> > > > want to go into ASP scripting or java or anything else - I just want
> to
> > > > stick with VB.NET syntax and language.
> > > > Whatever book I get should be able to adress these things (all by
> > example
> > > > and sample code) - examples and code snippets are important only
> becuase
> > I
> > > > am very green here to VB.NET and web development on a whole:
> > > > > > 1) How display popup windows (for like login functions)
> > > > 2) Go into detail on things like session veriables so I can maintain
> > > > seperate content based on if a user is logged in or not.
> > > > 3) Some database information (although I am pretty comfortable in
this
> > > area
> > > > so I may not need much help if any).
> > > > 4) Login/security design recomendations.
> > > > 5) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
> > > > shopping cart transactions.
> > > > 6) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
> use
> > r
> > > > group forums.
> > > > 7) How to work with frames - or an alternative similiar screen
design
> if
> > > > this can't be done within VB.NET (using headers, a side contents
> > section,
> > > > etc.)
> > > > 8) How to have a running counter for things like how many people are
> > > logged
> > > > into the site.
> > > > > > Any book suggestions that can address these things would be great.
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > >
When it comes to Javascript, is Java# workable - or would that require the
client to have the .net framework installed?

"Showjumper" <shojumper@.grkjashdjkf.com> wrote in message
news:OEIdbGr3DHA.2060@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Each has their place. VBNET can used for database interaction and other
> server side stuff. While javascript is for the client side. But you can
send
> javascript to client via vbnet. But you cant use vbnet on the client
unless
> its a windows app. Also it would help answer your questions if i knew what
> you meant by full website.But remeber that each a specific purpose.
> "David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
> news:OsMDTDr3DHA.2000@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks.
> > Ya know - I'm starting to get the impression that it's not really
possible
> > to do a full website based on VB.NET alone without having to dive into
> > scripts and that sort of thing. :-(
> > "Showjumper" <shojumper@.grkjashdjkf.com> wrote in message
> > news:OXvNP7q3DHA.2428@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Have a look at ASP.NET Unleashed by Stephen Walther. But it doesnt
cover
> > > number 1. For that look on MSDN for
> > > RegisterClientScriptBlock
> > > > "David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23T4kWnq3DHA.1652@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi everyone.
> > > > I've been working with VB6 for a while now, I'm feeling pretty damn
> > > > confortable with it, but find myself wondering about VB.NET and web
> > > > applications. So I thought I'd get my feet wet.
> > > > Well - let me tell ya - there's a whole lotta stuff that I need to
> teach
> > > > myself. I have a whole slew of questions - to many and propbably
just
> > too
> > > > basic to go into here - so I am hoping that someone out there can
> > suggest
> > > a
> > > > book that I can pick up from Amazon.
> > > > All of my questions are to do with creating web pages within VB.NET.
I
> > > don't
> > > > want to go into ASP scripting or java or anything else - I just want
> to
> > > > stick with VB.NET syntax and language.
> > > > Whatever book I get should be able to adress these things (all by
> > example
> > > > and sample code) - examples and code snippets are important only
> becuase
> > I
> > > > am very green here to VB.NET and web development on a whole:
> > > > > > 1) How display popup windows (for like login functions)
> > > > 2) Go into detail on things like session veriables so I can maintain
> > > > seperate content based on if a user is logged in or not.
> > > > 3) Some database information (although I am pretty comfortable in
this
> > > area
> > > > so I may not need much help if any).
> > > > 4) Login/security design recomendations.
> > > > 5) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
> > > > shopping cart transactions.
> > > > 6) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
> use
> > r
> > > > group forums.
> > > > 7) How to work with frames - or an alternative similiar screen
design
> if
> > > > this can't be done within VB.NET (using headers, a side contents
> > section,
> > > > etc.)
> > > > 8) How to have a running counter for things like how many people are
> > > logged
> > > > into the site.
> > > > > > Any book suggestions that can address these things would be great.
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > >
You can use VNET to handle login: retrieve the username and password and
compare to what the user entered, for the forums: the various subforums and
messages and related stuff canbe pulled from the database via vbnet and you
can use the server controls to display that stuff. And you can hadle the
credit card stuff with vbnet. But as for making popup windows and other
client stuff - yes you have to use javascript. And Java and javascript are 2
different things.
"David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
news:ePZn7Kr3DHA.2700@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi there.
> I see there's more to this than what I first thought. Seems there's no way
> of avoiding javascripts.
> By a full website, I meant writing something that has users login, gives
> them the ability to browse forums, send messages, and make purchases
(credit
> towards usage or for purchasing products). The learning curve is steeper
> than what I thought - I wasn't counting on having to learn VB.NET (I'm a
VB6
> user now), plus javascript... guess I have to hit the books now huh? Damn.
> ;-)
>
> "Showjumper" <shojumper@.grkjashdjkf.com> wrote in message
> news:OEIdbGr3DHA.2060@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Each has their place. VBNET can used for database interaction and other
> > server side stuff. While javascript is for the client side. But you can
> send
> > javascript to client via vbnet. But you cant use vbnet on the client
> unless
> > its a windows app. Also it would help answer your questions if i knew
what
> > you meant by full website.But remeber that each a specific purpose.
> > "David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
> > news:OsMDTDr3DHA.2000@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Thanks.
> > > Ya know - I'm starting to get the impression that it's not really
> possible
> > > to do a full website based on VB.NET alone without having to dive into
> > > scripts and that sort of thing. :-(
> > > > > > "Showjumper" <shojumper@.grkjashdjkf.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OXvNP7q3DHA.2428@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Have a look at ASP.NET Unleashed by Stephen Walther. But it doesnt
> cover
> > > > number 1. For that look on MSDN for
> > > > RegisterClientScriptBlock
> > > > > > "David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23T4kWnq3DHA.1652@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Hi everyone.
> > > > > I've been working with VB6 for a while now, I'm feeling pretty
damn
> > > > > confortable with it, but find myself wondering about VB.NET and
web
> > > > > applications. So I thought I'd get my feet wet.
> > > > > Well - let me tell ya - there's a whole lotta stuff that I need to
> > teach
> > > > > myself. I have a whole slew of questions - to many and propbably
> just
> > > too
> > > > > basic to go into here - so I am hoping that someone out there can
> > > suggest
> > > > a
> > > > > book that I can pick up from Amazon.
> > > > > All of my questions are to do with creating web pages within
VB.NET.
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > want to go into ASP scripting or java or anything else - I just
want
> > to
> > > > > stick with VB.NET syntax and language.
> > > > > Whatever book I get should be able to adress these things (all by
> > > example
> > > > > and sample code) - examples and code snippets are important only
> > becuase
> > > I
> > > > > am very green here to VB.NET and web development on a whole:
> > > > > > > > 1) How display popup windows (for like login functions)
> > > > > 2) Go into detail on things like session veriables so I can
maintain
> > > > > seperate content based on if a user is logged in or not.
> > > > > 3) Some database information (although I am pretty comfortable in
> this
> > > > area
> > > > > so I may not need much help if any).
> > > > > 4) Login/security design recomendations.
> > > > > 5) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need
for
> > > > > shopping cart transactions.
> > > > > 6) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need
for
> > use
> > > r
> > > > > group forums.
> > > > > 7) How to work with frames - or an alternative similiar screen
> design
> > if
> > > > > this can't be done within VB.NET (using headers, a side contents
> > > section,
> > > > > etc.)
> > > > > 8) How to have a running counter for things like how many people
are
> > > > logged
> > > > > into the site.
> > > > > > > > Any book suggestions that can address these things would be great.
> > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
I just finished "Introducing Microsoft .NET" by David Platt. I reccommend
this book highly as a first contact with .NET. It's a quick, easy reading
overview of .NET with lots of diagrams and analogies. When you finish,
you'll have a clear idea of how the various pieces relate to each other and
what you need to study in greater depth. Very helpful.
--
John Goodfellow
irtfnm
use john at goodfellowassoc dot com

"David Brewster" <punky@.interlog.com> wrote in message
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> Hi everyone.
> I've been working with VB6 for a while now, I'm feeling pretty damn
> confortable with it, but find myself wondering about VB.NET and web
> applications. So I thought I'd get my feet wet.
> Well - let me tell ya - there's a whole lotta stuff that I need to teach
> myself. I have a whole slew of questions - to many and propbably just too
> basic to go into here - so I am hoping that someone out there can suggest
a
> book that I can pick up from Amazon.
> All of my questions are to do with creating web pages within VB.NET. I
don't
> want to go into ASP scripting or java or anything else - I just want to
> stick with VB.NET syntax and language.
> Whatever book I get should be able to adress these things (all by example
> and sample code) - examples and code snippets are important only becuase I
> am very green here to VB.NET and web development on a whole:
> 1) How display popup windows (for like login functions)
> 2) Go into detail on things like session veriables so I can maintain
> seperate content based on if a user is logged in or not.
> 3) Some database information (although I am pretty comfortable in this
area
> so I may not need much help if any).
> 4) Login/security design recomendations.
> 5) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for
> shopping cart transactions.
> 6) A demonstration on how to do the typical functions you'd need for user
> group forums.
> 7) How to work with frames - or an alternative similiar screen design if
> this can't be done within VB.NET (using headers, a side contents section,
> etc.)
> 8) How to have a running counter for things like how many people are
logged
> into the site.
> Any book suggestions that can address these things would be great.
> Thanks.
> Dave